
Since the mid-nineties, I’ve known about 8Ball & MJG, but I never dug into the Memphis duo’s catalog. In my defense, a ton of great hip-hop albums were released almost weekly during that era. This was years before you had access to every album at your fingertips via your smartphone, and the only way to access the music was to purchase physical copies (i.e., CD, cassette, and vinyl) or rip or burn a copy from a friend who already purchased a copy of the album. Whatever the reason, I missed the entire 8Ball & MJG run from ‘93 until 2010. But there is no time like the present.
I may have breezed through a couple of 8Ball & MJG records on the radio or seen one or two of their videos back in the day, but I never really paid attention to them. In the back of my mind, 8Ball & MJG seemed to be run-of-the-mill rappers spewing the same redundant pimp shit that a thousand other southern rappers were. Then I reviewed the America Is Dying Slowly compilation album for the blog and heard “Listen To Me Now,” and my opinion started to change. Over a slick and funky bass guitar riff, 8Ball & MJG brilliantly issued a PSA on AIDS, rapping from the perspective of HIV for the first half of the record. The shit was fire. I later discovered cameos from the duo on The Almighty RSO’s Doomsday album and Mase’s debut project, Harlem World. They weren’t as creative or as conscious as their performance on “Listen To Me Now,” but they were impressive enough to get me to track down physical copies of their catalog, starting with their debut album, Comin’ Out Hard.
Comin’ Out Hard was the first album released on Suave House Records, founded by Tony Draper. Draper is also credited with producing all nine tracks on the album. COH never received an official RIAA certification, but according to Suave House and the streets, it sold over 500,000 units, building a solid foundation for the label.
I usually don’t pay more than ten bucks for a used CD. But the collector in me and my intrigue with 8Ball & MJG’s music made me pay much more than ten bones for my copy. This review marks my first time listening to Comin’ Out Hard. Hopefully, it’s worth the investment.
Intro – Over eerie, slo-mo, lean-influenced chords and drums, Satan himself (played by MJG) stops by to welcome the listener to Memphis and the album, and he introduces the players for the evening. What the hell (no pun) is up with that hideous laugh at the end of his monologue? It sounds like Alvin Seville is getting an exorcism.
9 Little Millimeta Boys – After several listens to this record, I believe that “9 little millimeta boys” has a dual meaning. It’s Memphis slang for a sucka or a chump, but it also describes a killer, which is the persona 8Ball & MJG adopt throughout this song. The Memphis duo threatens to kill every “9 little millimeta boy” in sight, and according to 8Ball, women can get a taste of the heat as well (would that make their female victims 9 little millimeta girls?). The “thick as Heinz” bass line, combined with exhilarating HBCU marching band-like horns, is the audio double Dutch ropes 8Ball & MJG jump in between, quickly finding their rhythm, and completely smoke this shit. Both figuratively and literally.
The First Episode – Tony Draper whips up a production that’s as spooky as it is funky, as 8 and M give the listener a glimpse into the underworld of pimpin’ and drug dealing. As usual, 8Ball delivers solid bars, but MJG shines the brightest on this track, providing intricate detail about the key players in his drug ring and his prominent prostitution clientele. He even lists his prostitutes’ price menu (I don’t solicit hookers, but $200 for her to jack you off sounds extremely overpriced, even by 2026 standards).
Armed Robbery – Draper’s instrumental was clearly inspired by the Mission: Impossible theme song, making for the perfect cinematic soundtrack to back 8Ball & MJG’s thrilling bank-robbery script. There are a few holes in their storyline, but overall, I was entertained.
Pimps – TD chops up Womack & Womack’s reworking of Teddy Pendergrass’ “Love T.K.O.” and turns it into a beautifully soothing musical canvas (I love the soulful Cecil Womack vocal looped up for the hook). Our hosts paint it with high levels of pimpology and misogyny, and some of the content was uncomfortable to listen to (mainly 8Ball’s persistent mention of beating women). I hope the domestic violence portion was just a bit and not their truth; and if it was their truth, I hope they’ve put that dark side of their lives behind them.
Comin’ Out Hard – For the title track, our hosts give us more of what we’ve heard from them on the previous four tracks. Mr. Draper mashes up Simply Red with Rufus, creating a soulful groove for 8Ball & MJG’s gangsta/pimp propaganda to breathe on.
Mr. Big – 8Ball gets the first solo joint of the evening, jumping back into storytelling mode as he details his rise from lowly Mickey D’s worker to drug kingpin. The bars are engaging, and Draper scores the affair with Casio keyboard-esque chords, spiced up by a monster bassline and sleek 808 drums. This was fire.
Nigga’s Like Us – The beat and rhymes on this one sound like they were recorded a few years before the rest of the album. This is easily the weakest track on the project. And by the way, blowing up nigga’s cars for calling you fat is crazy, 8Ball.
Pimps In The House – Comin’ Out Hard ends with an MJG solo joint. The title might lead you to believe this is more of the same pimp promo we’ve gotten on the rest of the album. It is partially, but MJG also examines how the concept of pimps and hoes reaches beyond the streets into politics, government, and the world. The bass line sounds like a muscle-bound dude’s getting ready to kick your ass, accompanied by slithering 808s and discrete wah-wahs. It doesn’t stand up to 8Ball’s solo record, but it’s still decent.
If you read this blog regularly, you know Illmatic is my favorite hip-hop album of all time (and if you’re new to the blog or didn’t know, the blog name is an obvious breadcrumb). Illmatic is full of stellar production and masterful hood poetry from a youthful and hungry Nasir Jones. The combination was magical, but just as important as the music and bars on Illmatic was its conciseness. At nine tracks, Illmatic left no room for fluff, and each track was packed with appetizing, well-conceived content. Like Illmatic, Comin’ Out Hard was truncated to nine tracks. But that might be the only thing the two albums have in common.
On their debut album, 8Ball & MJG spend the entire forty-two-minute runtime slangin’, killin’, and getting high. None of it is original, even by 1993 standards, and it gets redundant (and at times cringeworthy, specifically when 8Ball gets into his domestic violence bag on “Pimps” and “Niggas Like Us”). Yet for most of COH, the duo makes the regurgitated subject matter their own, dressing it up with their unique Memphis diction, slang, and southernly soulful cadences that keep you engaged.
While 8Ball & MJG hold court with their performance on COH, I was even more impressed by the Tony Draper-led production. TD maestro’s the affair, blending sleek 808 drums, tough bass lines, funky synth sounds, and a few soul samples (see “Pimps” and the title track). A couple of his instrumentals fall short, but overall, Draper’s southern-fried production sounds great underneath 8 and G’s Memphis-influenced street soliloquies.
On second thought, there are a couple more things Illmatic and Comin’ Out Hard have in common. On “Mr. Big,” 8Ball raps about grabbin’ his “TEC from the dresser.” On Illmatic’s “Represent,” Nas raps about “Pulling his TEC out the dresser.” Illmatic lived up to its title. Comin’ Out Hard does likewise.
-Deedub
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